God doesn’t mind blasphemy, but we do

09/10-09 kl. 05:00 Politics / Theology
Blasphemy Photo: Ib Kjeldsmark

Religious feelings, bullying, and the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Two editors stake out the issues four years after the Mohammed cartoons

by Luci Ellis

»Danes are know-alls and religious illiterates«.

Erik Bjerager isn’t pulling any punches with his opening line at the Theological Association’s blasphemy debate.
Looking around the surprisingly full basement, it is clear that no offence has been taken.

The audience clearly hasn’t missed the unspoken addendum ‘present company excepted’.

It’s not about God

In 17th Century Denmark, blasphemers had their tongue cut out and were executed.

»Derision of God was the same as mockery of the King, who was considered a part of the church,« explains Erik Bjerager, the editor of the Christian conservative daily Kristeligt Dagblad.

Blasphemy was a political issue then, and apparently still is, although your tongue is a lot safer these days.

It’s quickly made clear that any modern discussion of blasphemy is not about looking out for God’s best interests.

»Blasphemy has gone from being a derision of God, to being an affront to individuals’ religious feelings,« Erik Bjerager explains.

Holy bust-up

Tøger Seidenfaden, editor of the centre-left daily Politiken agrees, saying that »using the concept of blasphemy to protect God makes absolutely no sense at all«.

Neither deigns to elaborate the point, as it’s so boringly obvious: Insults are clearly not an issue for one as almighty as, well, the Almighty.

At this point, I am hoping that someone, of any religious persuasion, will jump in and wildly protest that God does have feelings and that it does matter what we say or write about Him. A bit of religious rabble rousing would brighten up my evening no end.

No luck there. The closest we get to a holy bust-up comes later. The bashful heckler next to me hisses under his breath »polish your halo!« at Tøger Seidenfaden’s self-congratulatory tone concerning his newspaper Politiken’s coverage of the cartoon crisis. Oh well.

Blasphemy law and masturbation

On the controversial issues of the Danish Blasphemy law, the two editors agree that it’s a good idea to leave it be, at least for the time being.

The law was last invoked in 1938 to punish Nazi Anti-Semitism, although, fairly recently, Danish stand-up comedian Uffe Holm came close in 2005 when he made a joke involving crucifixion and masturbation through Christ’s nail-perforated hand. Blasphemy? Maybe. Funny? No.

According to Erik and Tøger, two groups are particularly interested in getting rid of the Blasphemy paragraph:

The first is the right-wing political party Dansk Folkeparti (DF), who are concerned that the paragraph may be abused by a (Muslim) religious minority to threaten Danishness. Actually DF are no strangers to tactless religious comments.

Just this week, the Party leader Pia Kjærsgaard described Muhammad as »a crazy, self-proclaimed prophet […] who yapped up in the 7th Century«.

The second group are Christians who protest the law’s theological soundness, claiming that »God should not be defended in a courtroom, as this is raising the servant above the master«.

Atheist’s conversion

Interestingly, atheist Tøger Seidenfaden used to be a staunch critic of the law. He was ‘converted’ on the day, in the throes of the cartoon crisis, when a few misguided Danes threatened to burn a Quran in the middle of the city square in Copenhagen. But for the existence of this much debated paragraph, the police would have had no power to intervene.

Fortunately, no books were burned that day.

Tøger realised that the law might have its uses in upholding public order when things go to extremes.
Indeed, the law comes under ‘Crimes against the public order and peace’, just after the dubious sounding law against ‘improper conduct with a corpse’. Oh dear me. I think that law is probably best left alone, too.

The introductory speeches conclude that self-regulation and common decency are the way forward and that ‘religiously illiterate’ Denmark is just not ready for a change. Also abolishing the law would be a dangerous signal, which may be interpreted as an incitement to insulting or offensive remarks, ‘because we can’.

Just a picture, for God’s sake!

Enough has been written and said about the infamous Muhammad cartoons, but it is the anniversary, and an article on blasphemy wouldn’t be the same without them, so here goes.

For those of you who were doing extensive field work in a jungle at the time, the cartoons were published in the Danish broadsheet Jyllands-Posten after the author of a childrens book about the Prophet accused cartoonists of self-censorship when they wouldn’t illustrate his book.

Half a year later, Danish embassies and numerous flags (some of them Icelandic, but hey, anyone can make a mistake) had burned, and Danish companies in the Middle East felt the effects to their bottom line.

Perfection no laughing matter

Eric Bjerager has a theological explanation to what went wrong. Theologically speaking, the explanation for the long tradition of jokes about Jews and Christians – which are unproblematic as long as you do it in a sort of friendly kind of a way, and as long as you only joke about your own religion – is that the central figures of these religions are not considered to be perfect. They have human failings and are therefore ‘fair game’.

Muhammad, on the other hand, is considered by believers to be the only perfect human being. He is therefore no laughing matter.

On the other hand, as Tøger Seidenfaden logically points out, that still makes him a person, and this lies at the root of the ban on pictorial representations of Muhammad. The point of the ban is to prevent idol worship and maintain the purity of Islamic monotheism.

Bullying, not theology

Whatever the purpose of the infamous cartoons, it was certainly not to raise the Prophet to the level of God. So the problem with the cartoons is actually not theological at all, argues Seidenfaden. It is about bullying a minority.

Does that mean we should just say pleasant things about Muhammad and be done with it? Not according to our two speakers. There is a big difference between religious critique and ridicule, says Seidenfaden, and religions should be respected on the same level as race, sexuality and political persuasion, as they are so fundamental to human identity that they cannot be considered a choice.

Too silly to deserve respect?

This statement led to my favourite question of the evening. Do all religious feelings, even the feelings of members of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster or the Jedi Church, deserve to be respected on the same level as race, sexuality and political persuasion, or are some simply too silly to be taken seriously?

Tøger is rash enough to call the Church of the Flying Spaghetti monster and Jedi religions ‘absurd’. I wouldn’t dare, personally.

Never mind religious sentiments, those Jedi know some pretty scary mind tricks, and who knows what Spaghetti monsters would do, if provoked.

Apparently religions have to earn respect, just like the rest of us. To deserve a solemn tone, they have to be around for a long time, have lots of followers and get involved in public debates, says Tøger. But bullying is always a no-no, no matter how silly things get.

luci@adm.ku.dk

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29/10-09 kl. 11:50 ISAAC:

Dear Tobias, how would you really feel if all the time you raise your ideas in the class or in your work your teacher or your boss redicules you? Come on! Let's be frank. One or two times you would tolerate. But when this becomes common and everyone you know does it to you including your family, u would surely go crazy and attempt to kill yourself. You see, your ideas might be appealing to you but seem foolish for others. And unfortunately, our world is filled with billions of people with billions of different ideas. And if everyone adopts rediculing as one major way of dealing with others, we wold have the sixth world war in no time. And I am sure you wouldn't want that as a civilized human being. Thus I say, let's keep our discussions on the peaceful criticism level. Hey, just to remind you, this is not my theory but a simple fact you can find in any book on psychology. A simple and amatuer concept! You see! Rediculing is for fun while discussions are not games. The goal of discussion is to change people not to make them angry. An angry man never reasons out. He attacks! Or atleast will get ready to redicule back the next time. Dear, think about it with a clear concious mind for three minutes. I am deadly sure you will change your mind.

27/10-09 kl. 01:17 Hafiz Muhammad:

We should not try to oversimplify our situation. There is no single way of fixing things. Life is too complex to be gathered together and collectively judged according to a specific context or understanding. Only few basic and foundational things are universally accepted and shared commonly everywhere, other than that everything is debatable. Many things depend on our context, definition, and socio-cultural background.

As a concept everybody agree with you that “BAD is BAD”. But, lots of complication will arise when we try to be a little bit specific and ask the question “which things are actually bad?” because, this will entail the whole issue of normative philosophy which might require centuries to exhaust let alone to reach a consensus. Since, we cannot exhaust discussing what is good and what is bad and we cannot come with a single answer, we need to learn how to live and interact with others despite our differences.

Trying to dictate things, believing only my way is right will push things to edges and it will not bring any good to our sad reality, rather than aggravating the problems. This however should not be taken as an excuse to close the door for idea sharing, discussion and criticism. All these lofty ideals should be entertained giving due consideration for our diversity and by building a common term among ourselves.

So, I say: trying to know about others and going around the world will help a lot in understanding our diverse and complex reality. It will help us to develop a sense of balance and moderation in our thought.

13/10-09 kl. 13:19 Hafiz Muhammad:

I think Saudi Arabia is not the only Muslim country we have in the world. In many Muslim countries like UAE, Kuwait, Qatar and many others there are different kinds of Christian groups and they have their own Churches to worship their God. But, many part of Saudi Arabia have religious and historical significance which makes it hard to allow the construction of churches in the country. Theologically, some religious scholars even regard every part of the country as sacred place (mosque). In this case it becomes hard to have a Church in a Mosque. We have also heard the same logic in some Christian majority places like Auxum which have historical and religious significance for Orthodox Christians in Ethiopia. Until now Ethiopian Muslims in Auxum are not allowed to have a mosque even if they live there for thousands of years. I also believe it will be very hard to ask for a mosque in place like Vatican since it has a religious significance for Catholic Christians. In general, when we discuss such issues, things should not be taken at their face value and hence religious and historical backgrounds should also be taken into consideration.
Respecting the religious values and concepts of all people is very crucial for harmony and understanding. But, we also need to discussion, raise questions and criticize these values and concepts in respectful and academic context. Insult will bring no positive thing as it has no ear for counter argumentation.

09/10-09 kl. 09:57 David Gordon:

Yes, I agree that "religions have to earn respect". They also have to give respect. It is difficult to argue that we are at that position of mutuality.
For example, we understand, and make it possible, for believers in Islam to build a mosque in Denmark, or the UK, or the USA, or in almost all "Christian" countries. What happens if Christians want to build a church in an Islamic country? There are no Christian churches in Saudi Arabia. I would be interested to read an acceptable justification for such a policy.
I write as an atheist.

13/10-09 kl. 13:09 Hafiz:

I think Saudi Arabia is not the only Muslim country we have in the world. In many Muslim countries like UAE, Kuwait, Qatar and many others there are different kinds of Christian groups and they have their own Churches to worship their God. But, many part of Saudi Arabia have religious and historical significance which makes it hard to allow the construction of churches in the country. Theologically, some religious scholars even regard every part of the country as sacred place (mosque). In this case it becomes hard to have a Church in a Mosque. We have also heard the same logic in some Christian majority places like Auxum which have historical and religious significance for Orthodox Christians in Ethiopia. Until now Ethiopian Muslims in Auxum are not allowed to have a mosque even if they live there for thousands of years. I also believe it will be very hard to ask for a mosque in place like Vatican since it has a religious significance for Catholic Christians. In general, when we discuss such issues, things should not be taken at their face value and hence religious and historical backgrounds should also be taken into consideration.
Respecting the religious values and concepts of all people is very crucial for harmony and understanding. But, we also need to discussion, raise questions and criticize these values and concepts in respectful and academic context. Insult will bring no positive thing as it has no ear for counter argumentation.

09/10-09 kl. 09:52 Tobias:

"(..) and religions should be respected on the same level as race, sexuality and political persuasion, as they are so fundamental to human identity that they cannot be considered a choice."

This sentence is at the heart of the issue - and I can only fully agree with the follow up question that was asked. First of all: Race and sexuality are indeed not chosen, while political persuasion is clearly on a different level of choice involved.
I think all ideas (religious, political or otherwise) should be allowed to be criticised, discussed and indeed ridiculed.
Why would there need to be a special "respect" for bad ideas if they are voiced in the context of religion? If I happen to grow up in a cultural context where I am (at early age) indoctrinated to believe certain outlandish claims that are not supported by any evidence.. these outlandish claims should be "respected"?
This is exactly the kind of mind-set that makes religious extremism and terrorism possible in the first place.

ALL bad ideas should be exposed, discussed, challenged and if necessary ridiculed!

15/10-09 kl. 18:39 El CHÉ:

Is funny to see your "extremist" comment against religious extremism and terrorism...

I'm sorry, but your enthusiasm makes you blind... There will be always a lot of subjetive issues that will lead to endless discussions ... Discussion brings enlightment when both sides are willing to learn. The solution is never ridiculed an Idea because that will bring more extremist reactions...

My opinion is that what you can do is to inspire the people to become "Searcher" and "Researchers" of Truth... Show alternatives, show your strong ideas with respect, and feed the people with knowledge, make them suceptible and sensitive through ART, then you'll have productive discussions and why not the end of the wars...

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Facts

Who were the panelists?

Tøger Seidenfaden has been editor-in-chief of the newspaper Politiken since 1993.

Erik Bjerager is editor-in-chief of the newspaper Kristeligt Dagblad, which focuses on belief, ethics and existence.

Blasphemy laws around the world

Denmark:
§ 140. He who publicly mocks or derides a legal religious community’s dogma or worship will be punished with a fine or detention up to 4 months.

The paragraph has not been used since 1938 when a Nazi group was convicted for anti-Semitic propaganda.

Pakistan:
§ 295-B punishes defilement of the Quran with life imprisonment.
§ 295-C prescribes the death penalty or the death penalty with a fine for the ‘use of derogatory remarks concerning the Holy Prophet.’

USA:
No law against blasphemy

UK:
The offences of blasphemy and blasphemous libel in England and Wales were abolished in 2008. There is however ‘The Racial and Religious Hatred Act’ of 2006, which creates the offence of inciting hatred against a person on the grounds of their religion


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